ROCK-SOLID PERFORMANCE . Took off the cover of the fan, there are 3 screw holding it in place. Asus is quiet under load but fans don't have off mode so gigabyte and MSI win in idle while being louder that Asus once the fans spin up. (Unless you count the Parrot VM bytecode developed for perl6.). This also includes products that rely on AMD technologies, such as motherboards and Freesync Monitors. I've got an Asrock X570 Steel Legend and I don't hear the fan on it at all, but it's in a Fractal Design R4 and I'm not using anything that would make the chipset get hot. In theory it's possible now for companies to make independent x86 designs up to around i686 32bit, with SSE1 and any older extensions like MMX, since the patents covering those have most likely expired, but who would buy that? Yes, the way dB works is via exponential growth/decay. [–]ckmanux 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (1 child). See any chipset fan on those gigantic beasts? ~1500rpm never really getting above 70c. I woulden worry about fan failure unless you have the board for like 8 years or more. I just wanted to say great video. [–]WhatsthisnotgoodcompB450, R7 2700X, Vega 56, 32gb 3200mhz, NVMe 20 points21 points22 points 1 year ago (4 children), I have almost $150 worth of poopfans specifically to fuck off any and all fan noise, i don't need some shit little $0.10 whiny laptop blower fan defeating it all because the motherboard manufacturer was too cheap/lazy to fit a decent copper passive heatsink, [–]Foritain-Techtesters[S] 10 points11 points12 points 1 year ago (0 children), That's the most aggressive I've ever heard anyone talk about their Noctua purchase. [–]ltron2 7 points8 points9 points 1 year ago (2 children). [–]WhatsthisnotgoodcompB450, R7 2700X, Vega 56, 32gb 3200mhz, NVMe 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago (1 child). [–]yqtyyz 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children). You can finally change LED color on the reference RX6000 series cards! For reference, ~40 dB is the sound level of a dishwasher... idk about you guys but I wouldn't want dishwasher-level noise coming from 1 tiny fan in my room while I'm gaming, [–]MrInYourFACE 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (0 children). If you're not overclocking, and you dont need a ton of USB or M.2 slots, most boards will be fine actually. On behalf of Nada who made this video: if there are any questions, just … Otherwise you cant hook up your case's type-c port. Remember when nVidia nForce was a thing? Like do the mobo manufacturers really think for a second we're stupid enough to believe that active cooling is required to dissipate 15w? We'll have some X570 builds in the coming weeks, we'll at least see if some interesting data pops up to dive into that further. I'd argue that a decent CPU cooler will probably have a larger impact than a new case -if- your cpu cooler is currently the loudest part. SSE2 btw came out in 2000, and SSE3 in 2004. [–]htt_novaqi5-3570k @ 4.3 / Vega 56 @ 1540 UV 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children). For other extensions just check Wikipedia. Which slots did you use for load testing, because the main pci-e slot and the main nvme slot don't utilise the chipset at all, they are connected directly to the CPU. I'm really considering getting the elite even though I have the gaming plus. Got a Ryzen 7 3700x, MSI RTX 2070 Super Trio X, G.Skill RipJaws V 3200MHz (16GB), 2x Nvme SSD Crucial 1TB, [–]xLuky 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (10 children), [–]Foritain-Techtesters[S] 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (2 children), I'm sorry I should have clarified: the MSI board doesn't have an internal type-c connector for cases that have Type-C :), [–]xLuky 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (1 child). what about the temperature when the fan is off? I meant those who make the GPU chips themselves. I use mine with no fan until 70c, for non-gaming passive use it usually sits around 67-69 but I've seen it get to 70 as the highest. It would be far less difficult than trying to get a third major amd64 CPU designer to enter the market. No idea what you're saying "no" too. Those things always fail or become noisy over time. People running zen 2 right now are early adopter for sure. Ooooo I’ll have to do these when I’m home. Well the Pro / Master are two very solid options, the ITX is interesting because it's the only ITX ,and the Xtreme is .. well.. the only passive board. [–]Foritain-Techtesters[S] 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (4 children). [–]xMEECH08x 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (1 child), [–]nwash57 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children). where hitting the limit with x86, [–]azeiaRyzen 9 3950X | Radeon RX 560 4GB 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (1 child). I run my PCs 24/7 so the 60K hours it's rated at will happen well before I plan to stop using this MB. There's just one issue, and that's the PCH fan, it's pretty damn loud! Eh, I wouldn't praise the motherboard market too much. Was she inspired by hardwarecunucks video style? Personally I'd take the Aorus Pro I guess, but honestly you get to a point where you can let looks decide. Dec 10, 2019 #27 Zafir said: I have a X570 Aorus Pro and the chipset fan noise has … At last, someone did this! No coil whine when the ace spins up. Some Pentium 4s went up to 3.8Ghz before overclocking. [–]maha420[] 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children). On Asus, ASRock & Gigabyte the fans is fully or partially covered with a big graphics card. I get that patents help drive innovation, but imagine paying Ford to put the gas pedal on the right. [–]pbkoden 20 points21 points22 points 1 year ago (11 children). 2nd: It actually is a direct and fair comparison to typical case fans. Cause then chipset really starts to heat up. Yeah I’m using just a regular nvme in the cpu lane and I also dropped my GPU to pci gen 3 and turned off boost at the moment and temps have been much better than at stock. I'm using a single pcie 4 nvme drive, and have not had the chipset get hot enough to turn the fan on. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Yeah I know about VIA, I didn't mention them because they haven't really done much for a long time. Motherboard manufacturers similarly depend on AMD and Intel chipsets these days. [–]frugal_masturbaterAMD | 3900X | X570 Gigabyte AORUS Master | GTX 2080 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children). 85dB at 50Hz is infinitely easier to deal with than 75dB at 10KHz, [–]Lulumurr1 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (13 children), Still can't decide - MSI MPG x570 Gaming Pro Carbon or Aorus x570 Pro, [–]Foritain-Techtesters[S] 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (12 children). hell no... we need a new one for cpu. These types of patents absolutely don't drive innovation, the problem is most lawmakers are completely technologically illiterate and don't understand where to draw the line on these things. What temperature do you set it to start rotating at? [–]Lulumurr1 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children), Well, I'm still not sure. I flashed the BIOS using a USB drive via MFlash, and then rebooted. [–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago (5 children). With upgraded power delivery and comprehensive cooling options to fuel AMD's latest CPUs, plus support for faster memory and storage, TUF Gaming X570-Plus (Wi-Fi) is the perfect foundation for your next high-core-count AMD battle rig. Thus far there really isn't anything else other than Intel, Nvidia and AMD. Thank you so much for the very detailed response. AMD Ryzen: Gain of every Zen generation on application and gaming performance, Thank you AMD for open source drivers - with their magic combined with Proton, Cyberpunk 2077 runs on Linux. ps3,360 then port to pc. Once updated to the BIOS revision that gives PCH fan control, setting it to silent yielded the following: 0RPM until 60c. Again, most people in power just don't know anything about tech, so we have to suffer with their incompetence. To be fair it's rare for it to spin up period. In the case of game engines for instance, it would only take like one company to make an open source engine that dominates everything else, for others to feel the pressure and realize there is no money in keeping theirs closed anymore. I remember a huge EVGA HEDT mobo that had a couple of them. As you can see, it's tricky. I have the x570 Aorus Master....the Chipset Fan is high pitch and super annoying. Their bios implementations have always been wacky and … Gigabyte flaunts its fleet of X570 motherboards, including the passively cooled Aorus X570 Xtreme :OCheck out our sponsors. Wise Guy . A good way to stress the chipset is by running raid 0 on pcie 4.0 nvme drives. I also already have the 1080Ti, and I’m getting that specific ram on a deal from a friend who works at a computer store. Power; Cooling; Memory & Storage; Power … In case you were concerned, I am no longer. [–]SunakoDFO[] 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago* (0 children). Bought it to go with my 3800x and I don't regret it. 5800X and 6800 Nitro+, All AMD watercooled black gold battlestation 3900xt and 5700xt 32GB GSkill NEO on a ASRock B550 Taichi. Personally I prefer to never measure things from that close, we measure cases and coolers at 50cm and GPUs at 25 and 50cm, but in this situation due to the size of the setup we had no alternative way to get an accurate comparison. RTX are way overpriced and don't outperform it, 2080 is just faster by like 4-6 fps on average, which makes you wonder what you should get. And if you care about WiFi, ASUS has the TUF, or you can slap a $15 AX200 chip on a dozen cheaper boards. | Jun | May [–]BubsyFanboy1050p60,9600GT,Win10,Pentium G4400,4GB DDR3 30 points31 points32 points 1 year ago (32 children). Hell, if one of them sprung for a replaceable fan thatd be MASSIVE for them too. [–]Foritain-Techtesters[S] 16 points17 points18 points 1 year ago (0 children). [–]Chrushev 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children). I just realised you said VI Extreme, which is X370, and which I really wouldn't recommend at this point no matter how 'high end' it was 2 years ago. Also using x570 Aorus Master on silent profile. Anyway, other than sacrificing the X570 chipset for a B450 chipset based motherboard, any options in X570 without a chipset fan? I'd say the Aorus Elite is actually one of the most balanced entry X570 boards on the market. Also, I picked the 1080ti used aswell, couldn't be more happy since it is one of the best and affordable cards atm in my opinion. I'll check that right away :), [–]BW4LLRyzen 3700X ¦ RTX 2070S ¦Asrock x570 Taichi 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (2 children). stuff that not been used in 30 years. Similarly, the Crosshair VIII Hero doesnt have a 2nd USB 3.0 header internally. So I'd probably conclude that in reality, the test people need won't be possible for another year or two, at which point hopefully we have some proper high-end gen4 GPUs and SSDs that really push the chipset to the limit. It is unlikely that a new company would be very enthusiastic about developing new amd64 CPUs. The fan doesn't ever turn on for me. but we need to start planing past that .every other tech has change now but for that. This is just one reddit thread I have linked here. 2nd: It's much more complicated, and very much distance related. Introducing, Sleipnir, my first ever team red build! Get an ad-free experience with special benefits, and directly support Reddit. 4 x Front USB 2.0 ports. Provides 3 different operating modes to minimize noise and extend the fan’s longevity. I built a new AMD-based system in April and it has been great apart from one issue, an annoying 'ticking' or clicking type noise. Breaking this cycle would require one of three things: either AMD and Intel agree to freely license their patent portfolio openly under FRAND terms (will probably never happen); there could also be patent reform which addresses problematic rent-seeking or monopolist patenting behavior; or lastly, around 2024 or so, someone could actually try to make an x86-compatible CPU, but have completely incompatible instructions for things like AVX, that wouldn't violate patents, but this means compilers would have to be modified to optimize for both instruction sets, and switch at runtime between different codepaths depending on the CPU, and with enough pressure, maybe eventually we'd be free of the x86 duopoly. I had to set the fan speed to Custom and set up a curve with the duty cycle set at 0 for lower temps. Almost no room to do anything and beneath a hot GPU. Could probably be achieved with bios update, let's hope they do so! This is a complete non-issue....i don't understand the obsession. The first one to release a passively cooled x570 motherboard will shower in money after all. Funny thing is, when we were at Computex I asked all of the vendors "Will the fan have a passive mode", all of them said no and looked at me like i was asking the impossible. Not sure why it's played off as being quiet. GB is not my favorite brand but they are in my top 3. 1st: ? I'm not sure how easy/hard it would be to find the actual replacement for any of them. 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children). Reason why this would be interesting: If you are concerned about 1) the noise generated from the chipset fan and/or 2) the longevity of the chipset fan (afterall, a dead fan might lead to a dead motherboard), you would want to have the fan spin as little as possible for as much time as possible (with the optimal scenario being that it never spins - even under load). I think there will always be a small perf penalty though, but maybe it's not a serious issue. I was worried that my mobo will be the jet in otherwise totally quiet passive cooled HPC! [–]BubbleCast3950x || 1080Ti 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (4 children). 1 year ago. Anyway i don't mind the fan at all, i'm more concerned about the temperature. High Durability . Asus might have the slightly better VRM at that pricepoint, but the differences don't matter unless you xOC a 3950X and the lack of a 2nd internal USB header and an internal Type-C header on most asus boards is a no-no for me in most modern cases. Their bios implementations have always been wacky and … The default balanced profile was tested, I believe. Using 2 x NVM (1 PCIE 4 MP600 & ADATA PCIE 3) you can actually easily stress the chipset and as the cooling doesn't work as expected I have more then once seen temperatures of 68°C with fan running at very high speed. AMD and some board manufacturers talk about 10 to 12 watts on average, rather with the … Stu999. Can't hear it and my case is pretty quiet already. All x570s have a chipset fan Fan noise does not appear to be a problem can’t hear mine over the other fans . But theres a point where selling more at a lower margin is worth it, [–]Foritain-Techtesters[S] 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children). Those things always fail or become noisy over time. Short Version: It isn't enough to matter between the various motherboards. [–]Foritain-Techtesters[S] 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (0 children). [–]ltron2 12 points13 points14 points 1 year ago (6 children). It's just that switching architectures is such a massive undertaking that we really should switch to something open and future-proof if we're to do it at all... [–]KananX 19 points20 points21 points 1 year ago (0 children), Because they are vastly more complex to develop, it's two different worlds, [–]freddyt55555 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago (2 children). Any downside to doing this? Other than that it works flawlessly, temps are at 70c with high settings. We have 4+ of each brand now, they just didnt make it the first week. Where is that option? Mine, too. 2017: Dec | Nov | Oct | Sep | Aug | Jul If you need type-C MSI is off the table. Also, I'm not a fan of ARM because it's also patented, although the patents are at least licensed under FRAND terms; I would've liked an open design like RISC V ideally, but I know that's even less likely. When I spoke to ASRock they did mention a new bios but specifically did not mention a passive fan mode :-/. I just don't see what it adds over the X570 Elite other than WiFi. AMD Ryzen 9 5900HX mobile APU in Asus ROG Zephyrus Duo 15 SE exceeds 4.7 GHz and outperforms Intel Core i7-10700K desktop chip in Geekbench. I dont see a reason for idle to be active cooling. [–]azeiaRyzen 9 3950X | Radeon RX 560 4GB 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children). Most startups would not want their early days of business to be marred in legal troubles, so in practice we're not likely to see any competitors in the x86 arena anytime soon. I don’t like the x570 boards having the tiny cooling fan on the chipset. Thaaaaaanks, Well if you passively cool your CPU that'll be quieter ;). I would peek at the Aorus Elite though. [–]Foritain-Techtesters[S] 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (4 children). Considering most people covet noctua/bequiet fans that are on the level of 20ish dB (at max), this is quite significant. [–]TwoBionicknees 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago (1 child). You simply cannot take theoretical sound discussion and apply it either to either specs from a manufacturer or someone's particular setup. But which board has the best passive cooling? [–]ManaForestCBD 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (5 children). Ty. x570 Taichi SB Fan Noise. I set it to silents, but now i sound like and old dying HDD. This does work on my ASUS prime x570-p to control the PCH fan #5 and enabled me to isolate that the mobo fan adds basically no extra noise to my system. [–]ManaForestCBD 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (15 children). I didn't know it specifically needed a type C header so thats good to know. [–]TheswweetRyzen 9 3900x, 32GB 3600c14, RX Vega 56 @ 1650/975 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (3 children), Asrock allows fan stop in custom curves on the latest bios, [–]Foritain-Techtesters[S] 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (2 children), I checked and 1.4 was the latest version at the time. [–]hackenclawQ9650 | Radeon 7790 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (2 children). Discussion of politics and religion is also not allowed. Keep in mind that this is a gigabyte one which, IIRC per your measurements, is ~38 dB. Let's talk about x570 chipset fans... Hi, this is something that has been bugging me for a while... Late last year I brought an x570-P along with a 3950X late last year, and the machine is great, you can throw loads at it and it doesn't really slow down (I'm a software developer). Likewise here with the Taichi x570 - even pre-latest BIOS I was able to set a custom curve to make it near silent. If such a thing were implemented and adopted, people could easily switch between aarch64, arm64, ppc64, etcetera depending on whatever ISA gives the best performance when they are buying hardware. Not really, since they all use the same chips from a handful of GPU companies. Like shit, there's passive coolers out there for 65w CPUs.

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